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Late-term abortion & chemical abortion intro
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They're ambivalent all during their first and sometimes even second trimester about whether they want to continue the pregnancy. Meanwhile, the
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clock keeps ticking while their mind keeps ruminating and the baby keeps growing. So end up you end up with these
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late term abortions no matter how available the chemical abortion drugs are. No.
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[Music]
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Well, hello friends. Pro-life leader Frank Pavone here and welcome to our program. Tonight, I want to talk to you
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about the chemical abortion technique. People call it the abortion pill. will
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explain why that's not exactly the best terminology. But we're going to go into just some simple talking points to equip
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you to have uh a conversation about this with anybody at all that you are
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speaking to and also to help you uh to understand it as a pro-life committed uh
Opening prayer & reflection
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activist and believer. So let's start with prayer. I want to start with my book pro-life reflections for every day.
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Thank you to the Catholic Book Publishing Company for publishing this and recently sending me some additional
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copies. Let's go to one of these devotionals. Exodus 3:7 says, "I have
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seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of
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their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering." Reflection. Some
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abortion supporters say, "Let's just agree to disagree." We have the greatest
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respect for those who disagree with us. But when victims are oppressed, we don't
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just agree to disagree with the oppressor. Rather, we intervene to stop
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the oppressor and save the victim. Let us pray. Lord, you hear the cry of the
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oppressed. May we also hear it and respond. Amen. So, if you want a
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devotional like that for every day of the year, prolifeereflectionsfor everyday.com is where you can go.
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Okay, let's go over right away to the whiteboard here and we're going to talk about
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chemical abortion of technique of killing babies in the
Surgical vs. chemical abortion
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womb distinct from surgical abortion which of course involves things like
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forceps going into uh the womb, tearing apart the baby limb
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from limb or a suction tube tube going in there and suctioning the baby into a collection jar. Uh or later in in in
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abortion, injecting the heart with poison to stop it and then inducing an early delivery. Those are some of the
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methods of surgical abortion. But here we're talking about methods of abortion
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that use drugs. Notice it's plural.
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Some people talk about the abortion pill, but they're pills plural and the
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experience is much more difficult than taking a pill. We'll get that out in a moment. Chemical abortion is what we are
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talking about. Now, the first thing I want to point out, all I'm going to do here is give you some basic concepts.
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Obviously, all of this can be explored in a whole lot more depth and a whole lot more detail. You'll find all kinds
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of information on our website and on the websites of other pro-life organizations. But let me just bring you
Why abortion statistics are unreliable
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a few talking points, a few key facts, and dispel a few myths. First of all,
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the statistics. And the main thing I want you to know about the statistics. When you ask the
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question, well, how many of the abortions nowadays are chemical abortions? Are most of them chemical abortions? Is it 51%? Is it 60%? Is it
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80%. The statistics, brothers and sisters, are unreliable. That's the key thing we
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have to keep in mind. Now, abortion statistics, some of them come from the CDC, some of them come from Goopmacher.
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CDC, Centers for Disease Control, agency of the federal government. Goopmacher Institute is a research agency used to
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be connected with Planned Parenthood. Now, they claim to be more independent. But the fact of the matter is their
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numbers are always higher because they go look for the numbers from the abortion facilities.
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marker. I mean, uh, CDC relies passively on states to report the data and not all
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the states do, including the biggest abortion state, California. So, CDC numbers are always going to be lower.
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Goop markers are a little bit higher, but none of them are capturing all the abortions. And that's especially true
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now because after DOBS, things got all unstable as far as some states right
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away restricting abortion. In other states, passed amendments to have abortion even more accessible. People
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traveling state lines has increased. And chemical abortions, when they're selling
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drugs, you can keep track of the numbers
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of drugs sold. Okay? But remember, people are taking
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them at home, which also means they might not be taking them at home. The
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fact that they were sold does not mean that they were used. So, how many actual
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abortions that occur are occurring by these chemical methods? Bottom line is we're not sure. And none of the
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statistics right now are giving us a totally reliable understanding of it.
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Don't get too carried away with statistics.
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The other thing to keep in mind that as long as abortion is continuing, all
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right, as long as abortion uh is is legal in various places, there
Why late-term abortions still happen
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will always be surgical
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abortion facilities and there will always be late term. That is until we
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end it. As long as abortion is continuing, you can't imagine that chemical abortion will totally subsume,
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eradicate, and make disappear every surgical abortion facility or late term
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abortion. Why is that the case? Because the reasons people get abortions later in pregnancy often don't arise until
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later in pregnancy. In other words, people very often will go through the first uh trimester of their pregnancy
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wanting the baby very much. Maybe a medical diagnosis comes later in pregnancy. Maybe a relationship breaks
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up later in pregnancy. Maybe f their finances go south later in pregnancy. Maybe they're denying their pregnancy.
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Maybe they're ambivalent all during their first and sometimes even second trimester about whether they want to
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continue the pregnancy. Meanwhile, the clock keeps ticking while their mind keeps ruminating and the baby keeps
How the drugs work (Mifepristone & Misoprostol)
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growing. So end up you end up with these late term abortions no matter how available the chemical abortion drugs
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are. So that's another key thought to keep in mind. Now
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when we consider what's going on here, we have to understand how these drugs
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work and what it is that they do in a nutshell. Let's go back to the board. We
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are talking here about powerful synthetic steroids.
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That's why I don't want you to just talk about it as the abortion pill. These are powerful synthetic steroids.
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They have multiple effects on the woman's body and health.
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And we are talking about a two drug combo.
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Now, I'm going to give you some names here that likely you have heard. Many
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people know the names, don't know how to pronounce them. It's one of the most popular complicated medical words around
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these days. Mythopristone
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that's the drug number one and the drug number two very similar name
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Misoprosttol also known as cytoch
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but the key thing to understand is what do these things do? Mythopristone,
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brothers and sisters, starves a baby
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with a beating heart. Starves a baby with a beating heart
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and with a head and with arms and with legs
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starves the baby. How does it starves starve the baby? It blocks
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progesterone. Simple as that. Progesterone,
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key hormone of pregnancy, feeds the baby. Misfristone is a false progesterone.
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It's like a a a wrong key for a lock that goes in but doesn't turn and it
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keeps the right one from going in. That's how it works. Missrotol
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induces labor, induces contractions
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to eject the starved baby out of the body. That's
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it. That's what you have to know about how these things work and that's what you have to explain to people. And if
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you go to our website, children before birth.org, you'll see the pictures
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of the babies. You'll see the beating heart. in fact of the babies at the ages
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where these drugs kill them. You see the beating heart, you see the arms and
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legs. You see the faces. We think about a pill.
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I took a vitamin pill this morning. We take aspirin when we need to, right?
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Pretty pretty uneventful experience, right? You have your meal, you take some
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extra juice or water and you gulp down the pills. I mean, hopefully most of the
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medicines you and I may need to take don't have, you know, many side effects, if any at all. I know I don't have any
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side effects from taking uh some vitamins. And so that's why the word
Why “abortion pill” is misleading
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pill is misleading. People think, oh, it's just like he's like taking a pill. It's not just like taking a pill.
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This is a process taking place over several days
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and then can involve several weeks
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cramping, bleeding, expelling
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parts of the baby right there onto the bathroom floor. If you saw the movie Unplanned
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by my friend Abby Johnson, you see a vivid portrayal of what actually happens
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in these chemical abortions. Several days procedure with possibly several weeks of pain, cramping, bleeding, or
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worse. Why has the abortion industry pressed to
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make the procedure chemical rather than surgical? Understand this
Abortion industry’s motives
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surgical they have to deal
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with the body parts. They being the staff of the abortion
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clinic. They have to deal with the body parts. As a matter of fact, when you pull out the pieces of the baby one by
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one in a surgical abortion, they have to put them on a collection tray and make sure all the pieces are there. Make sure there's two arms, two legs, head, torso,
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etc. They have to see. Do you think that's easy? That's not easy at all. Chemical
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abortion. If you take the chemical abortion pills,
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you see the body parts.
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You think that's a benefit for them? Of course it is. Oh, let's just give her some drugs, take care of it at home.
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Then we don't have to deal with the aftermath. We don't have to deal with the blood. We don't have to deal with the little faces staring back at us.
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And in our imagination, we hear, "Why did you kill me?" The other reason is recruitment.
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First of all, it's easier for them, easier for the abortion workers. Secondly, recruitment of more abortion
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workers. Because if you look at the complaints of the abortion industry over the decades,
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what's one of the biggest complaints? We can't find workers. Well, of course you can't. Why would somebody go through the rigors of medical school and its
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expenses in order to be known as a baby killer? In order to actually be a baby killer
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with all the stigma that that carries. And you know what? For all the political and financial power of the abortion
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industry and media influence they have, they have not succeeded ever in removing the stigma from abortion. You're going
Health dangers & complications
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to legalize prostitution. You're not going to remove the stigma from that either. It has a stigma and that stigma
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will always remain. Now brothers and sisters
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the method of chemical abortion and we've briefly referred to this already
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is not safe for women. Our friends at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, and
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you can find this study on our website, have using insurance records,
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examined over 850,000 cases of people taking these powerful
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synthetic steroids and have concluded that about one in 10
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of these women, and you know, for medical statistics, that's a lot. For one in 10 of these women, there are some
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serious uh after effects. I've mentioned some of them already. And we look at overall studies so far about chemical
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abortion technique techniques, and there are four times more complications than
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with the surgical abortion. Not only that, but some pro-life uh medical
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experts looking into all this have concluded that they could be about as much as 22 times more dangerous than
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previously thought. The more time goes on, the more dangerous we're going to
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learn that these drugs are. Let's go back to the board here. Not only do we
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see the dangers, perhaps 22 times
Clinton, Obama & Biden push for chemical abortion
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more dangerous than we thought. And
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added to that, the Democrat administrations in Washington, Democrat
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presidential administrations. When did this assault on human life in the womb
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by chemical techniques uh take off? In the Clinton administration, I've been
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fighting against these chemical abortion and alerting people about it since the mid90s. It was the Clinton
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administration that got this off the ground and approved by the FDA. So
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Clinton was in, you know, from uh 92 to 2000. He was in office
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and this uh this circus here with the chemical abortion started around 94. Got
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it approved before he left office. Now under Obama, this is the Democrats
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are blood red. They got blood on their hands constantly. They hate the unborn.
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They hate America. We look at the Obama administration. We
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look at the Biden administration. What they both did in those administrations
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was to relax safety
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standards. What do I mean? Time after time after time with these
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administrations, they relaxed the standards increasing the amount of uh time into
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the pregnancy that these drugs could be used because originally it was only approved like for the first seven weeks
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because you know the longer you go, the more developed that baby gets, the stronger that baby becomes.
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Frankly, putting it just very simply, it's harder to kill the baby with these drugs the further along you go into
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pregnancy. And therefore, you run the risk of actually having
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a terribly deformed baby being born. They increased, however, the time into
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the pregnancy in which these could be used and they decreased they increased the time
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and decreased the involvement of the doctor,
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decreasing the number of visits that you had to make to the doctor, ultimately even eliminating the requirement to see
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a doctor at all. Well, then how do you assess the pregnancy accurately? And how do you make sure it's not an ectopic
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pregnancy instead of a an interuterine pregnancy, in which case you're really putting the person in danger by giving
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them a chemical abortion. And they also eliminated reporting
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requirements uh for for what you want to hide the
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damage that it's uh that it's doing. The the Democrat presidential administrations always act in favor of
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the abortion industry. Keep that in mind. You'll notice that as a pattern going along. It never fails.
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So, let's talk about, as you know, we at at
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Priest for Life oversee some of the world's largest ministries of healing after abortion. And I want to talk to
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you for a moment about how the grief that follows abortion
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is accelerated and intensified when it comes to these chemical methods of
Grief and denial after abortion
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abortion. I want to help you understand why. If you've listened carefully to what I've said so far, you'll begin to
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already understand what I'm about to say. The denial that a mom who has an
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abortion is in after that procedure, thinking to herself that the problem is
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solved, deciding to herself she's never going to talk about it again. And very
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often people come to us for healing after 10 20 years or have after their abortion and they say I haven't said a
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word about this to anybody not even my spouse if in fact their marriage survived or if they were able to get
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married in the first place. We nevertheless see when it comes to chemical abortion that the denial that
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some people live with for years, even decades, the denial that this really was a baby, the denial about how developed
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the baby was, the denial that the act of abortion actually killed a baby, that
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denial is broken much more quickly when it comes to chemical abortion. Why?
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Because of what I already told you. In the surgical abortion, these moms, if except when it sometimes happened by
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accident, these moms don't see what came out of them. They don't see the arms and
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the legs and the faces of the aborted babies. At home, they do.
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When that baby falls into the toilet, when that baby falls onto the shower
Home becomes the abortion clinic
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floor or the bathroom floor or the bedroom floor, they see
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that that's a baby. The denial is broken that they have to pick up the pieces,
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flush them down the toilet, as many of them do. You don't deny that that's a baby when you picked up two two feet and
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two hands and a head. So they come to us quicker
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for healing to seek peace, to seek forgiveness, to seek sanity. They come to us sooner. Our
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healing programs like Rachel's Vineyard, our campaign of Silent No More, they
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come to us more quickly. Not only that, let me go back to the board. It complicates the healing for the
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following reason. Let me put a few words up here to help you understand this.
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When you have a surgical abortion, that's a traumatic experience. Okay? Every abortion is. And one of the things
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associated with the trauma is the place where it happened. And if you live in
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the same town or vicinity of the abortion facility, all right? That was the place
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of the trauma, right? The abortion facility. Let's say that the uh person who got the abortion lives over here.
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And let's say they work over here.
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Do you know that many of those that have come to us for healing after abortion will say that instead of driving to work
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this way where they have to pass by the abortion facility, they will go this way
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deliberately to avoid ever seeing that place again
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because seeing that place can be a trigger. We see the reactions
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after someone has an abortion basically fit the pattern of PTSD, post-traumatic
The woman as her own abortionist
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stress disorder, part of which involves negative reactions or triggering
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by anything that reminds them of their traumatic experience. One of the things that'll remind them of it is the place
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where it happened. They will avoid that place, even if it means sometimes going very far out of the way. Maybe they have
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to get to the to the grocery store.
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Instead of going this way, they'll go this way if they have to
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avoid seeing that place. Okay. But with the chemical abortion,
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they're given these drugs and if they take them at all,
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they take them at home. And so now what problem do they have?
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They have a very simple problem. Their home has also become
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the abortion clinic. And how do you avoid your own home?
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It's a sad and difficult problem. Secondly, if someone has a surgical
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abortion, somebody whom they are very angry at afterwards, angry at, not appreciative of, but angry at is the
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abortionist. They did the procedure.
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That abortionist knew what he or she was doing, lied to them, often didn't treat them very well at
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all. And part of the after effect of abortion is a great deal of anger
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and resentment towards him or her. But now with the
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chemical abortion, not only has the home become the abortion clinic, but the woman has
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become herself the abortionist.
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Boy, does that hurt one's self-image and self-esteem.
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And what happens when the anger is displaced back onto yourself?
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You don't have an abortionist that did the procedure. You realize you did it.
Legislative & legal battles
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We deal with it all the time. Rachel's Vineyard, Silent No More, healing programs
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that we administer. Finally, the question that arises here, let me just
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spend a few minutes. I'm just giving you some key talking points and key concepts to understand about chemical abortion.
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The question of course arises in everyone's mind. What do we do?
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I mean, we know with surgical abortion, the things we do,
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we close the abortion facilities, try to put the abortionists out of business, go to the places where we know
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the abortions are being performed at the hours when we know that we're performing them, and intervene right there on the
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sidewalk and urge those moms and dads to change their mind. Or sometimes the grandparents are even more guilty if
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they're pulling their daughters in there. And then we pass various laws to
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uh impose regulations on the abortionist, on the clinic itself, on the hospital that might be doing them,
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etc. But what do we do legally, legislatively
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when it comes to chemical abortion? Well, the good news is that while
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chemical abortion is easily available in about 22 states,
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okay, easily accessible. There are another 28 states
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that have already significant legal limits on the use of these
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chemical abortion drugs. Now we can divide these in half because 14 states
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have complete or nearly complete protection
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of the babies from being killed in any form of abortion. So you've got 14
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states where these babies are protected from being killed by these drugs. You've
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got another 14 states that have re various restrictions on the
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chemical abortions, for example, that only a physician
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can administer them. I talked to you about the FDA under the Clinton, Obama, and
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Biden administrations, how they cut corners and made it easier and easier to
Pregnancy centers: reaching moms first
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use these drugs. But some states have their own restrictions. Remember the states are are empowered to deal with ma
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matters relating to medicine and health of their citizens. And so you've got various restrictions happening in 14
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states. A handful of states even prohibit the mailing of these drugs. The
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point being the b it's not like the battle is over just because they found a chemical
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do-it-yourself way of abortion. No, the battle is not over. There's all kinds of laws that can be passed. And you know, I
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was recently at the major pregnancy center conference of Carnet
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and um of course chemical abortion was very much a topic of conversation as it
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was some months earlier when I was at the the um pregnancy center conference
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of Heartbeat International and some months before that at NIFLA, the National Institute of Family and Life
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Advocates. They have a pregnancy center conference as well. And the conversation was the same.
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Chemical abortion, what do we do? And you know what the bottom line conclusion was about all from all these pregnancy
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center directors? Really, really it comes down to this. And this is where you can be helpful as well. Well, you
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can be helpful with the legislation, too. Lobbying your state lawmakers, right? But,
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oh, and we should also mention about something about the Supreme Court. I'll get back to that in a moment.
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But the basic thing that we were talking about at the pregnancy center conferences was simply this. The way we
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deal with these chemical killers circulating all around.
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We reach the moms
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first before the abortion industry does.
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before those who are selling these drugs do. Under the Biden administration, they even gave permission to pharmacies to
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start distributing these these lethal drugs. But if we reach the moms first,
Supreme Court & FDA safety standards
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with compassion, with alternatives, with counseling, with education about the
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development of the baby, with education about the the harm that these drugs are going to do to their own health, we
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reach the moms first. intervening, changing
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their despair to hope. That's a key way, of course, to describe the overall mission of the
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pro-life movement. Reach them first. smarter techniques online
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with SEO and and and live chat and and apps and getting into uh uh getting onto
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their phones and text messaging and just sometimes geo fencing and and targeting
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of all different kinds and supporting all the pregnancy centers and all the
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efforts that are being made to simply get the word out that if you're pregnant and in need, you know, something that
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chemical abortion and surgical abortion all have in common. You have a scared pregnant mom
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whose despair, not whose freedom of choice, but whose despair is leading her
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to seek an abortion, whether chemically or surgically. We've got to reach her first
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let her know that we know her pain and counsel her and give her the strength to do what's right. That's
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ultimately the solution. I mention here the Supreme Court because there is a case in front of the Supreme Court. It
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was brought to the Supreme Court uh recently and um they they they
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dismissed the case but not because they they ruled what the case is about is restore the stricter guidelines, the
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stricter safety mechanisms from of the FDA. Remember I mentioned how those administrations, those Democrat
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presidents uh relaxed the safety standards. So the Supreme Court has been approached to say look um an alliance of
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doctors came to them and said look we we we don't believe that this is helping women and we in fact we know it's
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hurting women restore the safety standards because they were changed not based on medical evidence but based on
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politics. So the court didn't hear that they heard the they they took the case
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but they uh ended up dismissing it for lack of standing. However that doesn't
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mean that the issue is resolved. They didn't say no to re to restoring the
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standards. They did make it clear that there are others, some states are pursuing this case now who do have
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standing before the court. And so we can see more activity at the Supreme Court
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coming up uh on this uh chemical abortion u process. We also have uh the
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HHS, Department of HHS under RFK Jr. uh and the whole make America healthy
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again movement looking into the numerous health negative effects of
Healing testimonies & resources
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chemical abortion. They are looking into that. We know that that's the case. And if they're looking into it, well then
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they can end up doing in the end if they follow the evidence honestly, which I
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think they will, revoking the approval of these powerful synthetic steroids that literally starve
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a baby and then eject the baby from what should be the safest place in the world,
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a mother's womb. And so brothers and sisters, I hope that these reflections have given you a few talking points and
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help you understand some of the truths about the chemical abortion and I hope
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they awaken in you a desire to learn more about it. You can look at that
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entire study that the ethics and public policy center did. You can look at the
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testimonies of those who are silent no more abortionestimonies.com
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and find there the uh terrible terrible aftere effects of this um this chemical
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procedure. You can look also uh at life afterabortion.com.
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That's our overall website for understanding the impact abortion has.
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and you'll see more information on what we've talked about today. I want to conclude in prayer and uh to do that,
Closing prayer to end abortion
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you know, we have ongoing prayer campaigns that you can find at prayer campaign.org.
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But one of those prayer campaigns ongoing all the time is simply the daily prayer to end abortion. And when we see
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the the indescribable horror uh of this
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particular way of killing, um it should motivate us to to want to do even more
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each day to end this this holocaust. So let's pray together this prayer I wrote to end abortion. Lord God, I thank you
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today for the gift of my life and for the lives of all my brothers and sisters. I know there is nothing that
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destroys more life than abortion. Yet I rejoice that you have conquered death by the resurrection of your son. I am ready
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to do my part in ending abortion. Today I commit myself never to be silent, never to be passive, never to be
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forgetful of the unborn. I commit myself to be active in the pro-life movement
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and never to stop defending life until all my brothers and sisters are protected and our nation once again
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becomes a nation with liberty and justice. Not just for some, but for all
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through Christ our Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. prayer
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campaign.org you can find that prayer and you can order these prayer cards.
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Thanks friends for listening. Share this video with all those that are uh that want to learn more about chemical
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abortion. I've just scratched the surface, given you some key talking points, maybe clarified uh and uh
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exploded some myths that are out there about this. Let's keep focused on learning more and reaching out, helping
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more so that people might avoid this terrible experience and save the lives
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of those children. Keep in touch with me on social media at FRFrank Pavone on all
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the major platforms. Thank you for watching and God bless you. Good brothers and sisters.
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Um, I wanted to just say a word in favor
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of priest for life of the great work that father pavone has been has
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dedicated his entire life to and ask for your support.
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your support, spiritual support and your financial support both.
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If you can't afford a financial support, we understand that. However, not so
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easily do I forgive the spiritual the lack of spiritual support. We need your prayers. With prayers, we can do a lot
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more than we can with with funds. Right? Please remember priest for life um on a
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monthly basis. in a will,
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in a large donation, whatever. The battle we're in is a diabolical
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and we have to win. We have to win. This is really the This is really the battleground. Life and death. We ask you
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to be the part of life. God bless you, your families, all your children, and
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may your children's children's children. May you live to see them. God bless.
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Every day the priests of Priests for Life lift up your prayers at the holy
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sacrifice of the mass. Your intentions matter. They are placed on the altar,
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remembered, and offered with the body and blood of Christ.
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At massintentionrequest.org, you can request that one or more masses
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be offered for your specific intentions. Just indicate what your intention is,
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how many masses you would like, and what stipend you can offer.
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Together, as a family of faith, we carry one another's burdens in prayer. Visit
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massintentionrequest.org today. And let the priests of priests
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forlife lift up your intentions at mass.
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Follow him. Frank Pavone, Fr. Frank Pavone. He is the national director of priests for life. Please go to
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priestsforlife.org. [Applause] Frank Pavone. Frank, thank you very
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much. [Music]