Listen to Walter Hoye answer Jacob’s questions for a new museum exhibit on Racism and Abortion.
Summary
This is Jacob Barr, and I recently had a compelling conversation with Walter Hoye on the Pro-Life Team Podcast. Our discussion revolved around racism and abortion, offering critical insights for an exhibit on this theme. Here’s a summary of our dialogue:
Walter Hoye, leading the Issues for Life Foundation, shared his journey to the pro-life movement, catalyzed by the premature birth of his son. This profound experience awakened him to the reality of life inside the womb, propelling his commitment to pro-life advocacy, particularly in black churches and communities.
We explored the predominant pro-choice stance among minorities, attributing it to a lack of biblical preaching on abortion in black churches. Despite the Bible’s clear pro-life stance, the silence on abortion issues in these congregations leads many to adopt pro-choice views.
Addressing the assertion that pregnancy poses a higher risk for black women, Walter acknowledged that while racism persists, it’s not universally true that black women receive unequal medical care. He emphasized the need to recognize abortion for what it is – the taking of innocent life.
We delved into President Joe Biden’s controversial statement during his campaign, suggesting that black voters who struggled to choose between him and Trump “ain’t black.” Walter condemned this remark as racist, reflecting Biden’s historical stance on race issues.
Discussing the claim that abortion choice policy aids minorities in overcoming historical obstacles, Walter disagreed, pointing to the rich history of resilience and success in the black community, rooted in family values and biblical principles.
We talked about eugenics and its connection to abortion choice policies. Walter highlighted the racist foundations of the abortion movement, notably Margaret Sanger’s involvement in eugenics and the Negro Project, which targeted black communities for birth control.
Comparing abortion to slavery, Walter observed similarities in the lack of choice for both the unborn child and slaves. He stressed that abortion predominantly affects black communities, calling it a form of black genocide.
On Black Lives Matter (BLM), Walter expressed skepticism about the organization’s genuine concern for black lives, critiquing its support for abortion and stance on dismantling the nuclear family.
Walter dispelled the misconception among minorities about abortion, asserting that most are aware of its reality as the taking of innocent life. He called for a return to biblical values to address the challenges facing black families, including the issue of absent fathers and systemic issues in the justice system.
Finally, Walter urged black voters to look beyond political manipulation and align with biblical values to truly navigate the rhetoric around racism and abortion.
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Transcript
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Jacob Barr :
Welcome to the pro-life Team Podcast i’m Jacob and I’m here with Walter and today we’re going to go through a set of questions about racism and abortion for an exhibit on racism and abortion. So Walter, welcome to the pro-life Team Podcast. And in this episode, we’re doubling as content for the this racism and abortion museum exhibit. And so we have a unique set of questions to discuss. Would you start us off by sharing who you know, who you are, your background, and what led you to the subject of abortion?
Walter Hoye :
Well, my name is Walter Hoy and my wife and I, we lead the issues for Life Foundation that’s the number for Life Foundation and our website is Issues for Life, The number for life.org and what got me involved initially just being pro-life was the birth of my first born son he was born, oh, about five months, little less than five months, and he weighed in at 2 1 pounds he ultimately went down to 1 9 and I was literally holding him in the palm of my hands in the hospital like I would a fork or a knife and he was just barely there. And the Lord answered my prayer i had been praying all night, had heard anything, came into the preemie ward early it’s about four or five o’clock in the morning, and I’m there and I’m praying and God spoke to me he said, Walter, when he speaks to me, he calls me by name. And he said what you’re holding in the palm of your hand is what’s supposed to be on the inside of a woman. Now at that point, I had never really thought about it. I wasn’t pro-life and I had never really understood, you know, what the argument was all about. But after hearing God speak to me and holding my son in the palm of my right hand, and God simply saying that what I’m holding in my palm is what’s supposed to be on the inside of a woman, then the pro-life movement became clear. Everything became clear. And after that, Oh my goodness, I’ve been pursuing the pro-life issue with black leaders and black churches ever since.
Jacob Barr :
Awesome what a what a good origin story thank you for sharing that. Are minorities in America mostly pro-choice pro-life Undecided, or other or something else?
Walter Hoye :
No i think that the majority are pro-choice or pro abortion and that’s primarily because in the churches we just don’t talk about it. Abortion is probably the number one, the most controversial issue in the black church today. And so we’re not going to preach the Bible we don’t talk about it that that’s what’s going to happen now the Bible as you know it’s extremely clear Old Testament, New Testament, you can’t really get away from it there’s no question of the Bible stand bible is abundantly pro-life The child is created by God in the womb. There’s no question about that. But if we don’t preach it, we don’t talk about it. That’s where the problem comes in.
Jacob Barr :
Some claim that black people, and pregnant black women in particular, typically receive unequal medical care, so pregnancy poses a higher risk for black women compared to other women is this true? And if so, would it help justify abortion choice policy?
Walter Hoye :
I don’t think that is true overall everywhere. Or it may be true in some places. Racism is still real alive today, but for the most part, I know plenty of women, including women in my family, they’re going to hospital without any problems whatsoever. The issue really is that we need to address abortion for what it is we’re literally taking the life of an innocent human being and let me tell you that the mothers, they know that when I was standing outside of an abortion clinic, I was holding a sign that said God love you and your baby, let us help you. And the sister would literally walk up to me and she said, hey preacher, she recognized me from the pulpit and she would simply say, is it true she’s wondering she’s struggling. She’s got a lot on her mind right now she’s about to walk into the abortion appointment for appointment. She sees a preacher standing on the public sidewalk. She reads this sign and she really wants to know, is it true that God loves her and that’s all yeah, it’s true that God loves her now keep in mind, she’s in church she’s seen me somewhere in the pulpit. So she’s in church and she’s really wondering that’s how difficult this decision is for her. And I say, Oh yeah, God loves her then she would say, well, if it’s true that God loves me, it’s the truth that God loves my baby. And for her, for the mother, it was always her baby. It wasn’t fetal tissues it wasn’t a clump of cells. It was her baby, and she knew it. And she wanted to make sure that God loved her and her baby. Oh, my goodness. And then finally, my son said, God loves you and your baby, Let us help you. And then she would jump in my face her sisters had no problem giving them my face and she’d say, well, what you going to do about it? And then I didn’t care what she needed. We met her move and when we did that, so many things changed. So I’d highly recommend that type of approach for the pro-life movement.
Jacob Barr :
Awesome that makes sense, President Joe Biden, on the campaign trail said. If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for Joe Biden or Donald Trump, then you ain’t black now biden was the Democratic presidential candidate at the time and a committed pro choicer at the time. What do you think of this quote is it just poorly worded, A bad joke or perhaps it’s perpetrating the idea that black people feel a sense of duty to support pro-choice candidates.
Walter Hoye :
President Biden is as racist as the day is long, and it’s a long day. There’s been no question throughout his entire career where he was on the race issue. I mean, he’s even celebrating and attending KKK members. Oh my goodness there’s absolutely no question that Joe Biden isn’t racist as a very long and it’s a long day. And that statement that he made that everyone has seen, I think it was on was it Charlemagne, the Gods radio show. Oh my goodness. I’m surprised Charlemagne didn’t jump all over him for making that kind of racist remark. I was stunned but what what’s happening in our community is allow for President Biden to get away with that. And so there’s no question in our mind, if you were honest, if I was just sitting in a in a in a meeting and it was all black Americans in that meeting, every last one of us would admit, Oh yeah, if we’re going to be fair, honest, open, that’s as racist as could possibly be. And everyone knows Joe Biden is racist.
Jacob Barr :
Yep, that makes sense. So people have argued that abortion choice policy helps minorities achieve equality and overcome historic obstacles facing the black community. How is that supposed to work? Do you agree or disagree with that logic?
Walter Hoye :
I disagree with that logic and I’m talking about when you go all the way back in our history as an as Americans, Oh my goodness. I mean, yeah, we were slaves coming up. And in 19 or 1865 the Civil War has ended. And all my goodness, when you listen to the slave tape, when you live here with the slaves like yourself, when you look at what it took to get the thirteenth fourteenth and fifteenth amendment and, when you look at the Reconstruction Era, you begin to see where our values were as people and let me tell you, I mean, Oh my goodness, initially, every single black person in America during Reconstruction period. Oh my goodness soon as we got a chance to vote with the fifteenth, amendment every last one of us was Republican. And we were all Republican because we knew the Democrats were the party of the plan. There’s no question about that. And we didn’t want any special privileges. We just wanted to be able to learn how to read and write and work. And when we put our families together, when husbands marriage the women and raise their families and taught their kids, Oh my goodness, there was nothing we couldn’t accomplish. And we’ve always accomplished it that way, even in the civil rights movement during the nineteen. Sixties oh my goodness, we were fighting for the ability just to make sure we could go to school just to make sure the laws applied equally to everyone. And all my goodness, those have been historically the black values down through history. And I think you can look at Frederick records, you can look at Booker T Washington, you can look at Black Wall Street, all of my goodness, an entire town, all black, my goodness, highly successful. I mean, we had banks, we had business we even had airports. I mean, we were working it was working for us with those biblically based Christian conservative value. So what I’m hearing today in terms about what’s going to work for America and what’s going to work for black America, it doesn’t reflect anything that we’ve learned from our past and learned from our history. And certainly it doesn’t reflect anything in terms of a biblical model yeah.
Jacob Barr :
Good points. So what is eugenics? And is abortion choice policy aligned with eugenics?
Walter Hoye :
So eugenics is about killing people let me just get right be honest that you can look at the definitions about eliminating, even being killing people. I mean, Margaret Sanger. Oh my goodness, are you Genesis Margaret Sanger? Yeah, the same woman that founded Planned Parenthood, A eugenicist. When you look at her history, and I’ve got her history all lined out on my website for the brothers, when they go to my website and check in on the library on the 1st floor, on the left hand side, there’s a department, a Margaret Sanger department. All the data is right there is clear, even in her own words and her own publication and those that she was working with, I mean even in her Negro project, Lord Have Mercy, it’s very clear that eugenics is about eliminating new beings, and specifically it’s about eliminating black Americans.
Jacob Barr :
Yeah so essentially Speaking of Margaret Singer, so or so, who is Margaret Singer and what is the Negro Project?
Walter Hoye :
Oh my goodness, we’re going back to the early nineteen. Hundreds and yeah, notice that it’s the New World project, Marvel Sanders neutral project. Not Asian project, not Italian project, not white project, not Hispanic project. It was the New World Project and what she did, she understood that the black leaders in the church were the ones that had the most impact in black America. So she recruited black leaders from all over the nation. And all my goodness, she needs black leaders to communicate the need for, at the time, birth control, birth control and all my goodness. It was amazing how actually effective that was and it’s still, so to speak, even working today, and we’re fighting against that we’re working hard to turn that around.
Jacob Barr :
So abortion is sometimes compared to slavery. Is that a fair slash valid comparison and would you explain your thoughts?
Walter Hoye :
Well, abortion literally takes the life of an innocent human being. There’s a human being inside of that woman that’s been created by gun. And yes, the child has no choice and the life is just taken. Eliminate done well in slavery, that was very common for life to be taken, life to be just used and abused at will. And when we actually looked at what it was like during the eighteen hundreds during the early nineteen hundreds, we began to understand that, you know, racism was a whole lot worse back then than it is today. So yeah, in terms of abortion and racism, it’s not exactly the same thing but when you look at it from the perspective, does that child have a choice? No and back in the early eighteen hundreds in the early nineteen hundreds, did you have a choice? No. They would just die in the town, kill, rape, steal at will we didn’t have a choice. And so we fought back but we could fight back more than that child can fight back in the room so we’re kind of there that’s where I am in that issue.
Jacob Barr :
Yeah, that makes sense. Is race based abortion legal in the United States what are your thoughts on that?
Walter Hoye :
Yeah, if you took black Americans out of the abortion issue altogether, abortion come to the end. Abortion exists, primarily exists. The reason why it started was because of us. It was about eliminating us. If you took us out of the question, if you decided right now, black Americans, we’re not doing it, more abortion would come to an end. Oh my goodness. And so we have to really understand the power that we have and this is a message I have in the pro-life movement. You can do what you want you can have the conferences, You can do the videos, you can do the seminars. You could pass out the brochure. You could stand there holding the signs in the public sphere. But Oh my goodness. But if you don’t reach black Americans, if you don’t reject it, abortion is going to continue to be allowed. And well, and so reaching this is extremely important when it comes to ending abortion.
Jacob Barr :
Is abortion more common among minorities? Please, please explain your thoughts on that topic.
Walter Hoye :
Oh, now that’s easy. Let’s take a look at the CDC data, not pro-life data lord have mercy. Let’s take a look at the Guttmacher Institute. David Alan Guttmacher was working for Planned Parenthood and my goodness, I’m not mistaken, he might as well was president of Planned Parenthood at one time. So we’re looking at poor abortion data, the data that they’re willing to admit to, and if you take their data, but they’re willing to admit to homework, goodness, abortion in my community is overwhelming. I mean, let’s get right down to it we’re basically about twelve thirteen at the very best 14 % of the entire population in the United States of America top 14 top stop. For real am I giving this thirty forty and in some cases, depending on if you’re going to bring in a chemical abortion. Oh my. It’s overwhelmingly how much we are involved in the abortion issue. If you eliminated us, let’s go like this. You’re gonna eliminate 3040 % of the abortion industry’s business. Let’s say you’ve got a business. I take thirty, 4050 % of your business away from you know, from the end of the day long if it’s gonna be over. So abortion from black America is very similar we’re easily the number one customer. I mean, I could even take it from another step. If you take a look at the leading causes of death in black America, the government puts out just for the 13 leading causes of death in black America in my goodness, we’re talking about heart disease. We’re talking about diabetes. I mean, if you’re going down a list somewhere around four or five or six, you’re going to see homicide. Oh my goodness. All of the leading 13 causes of death in black America. Abortion all by itself is more, if more than at least the top five leading causes of death all by itself. They won’t even include that as a cause of death because they can’t. Because it’s the number one cause of death in black America. Must we understand that? Yeah, we’re starting to get the real picture now what the impact of abortion in black America is. That’s a.
Jacob Barr :
Good point. Has abortion choice policy been overall more helpful or harmful for black people and black families?
Walter Hoye :
Well, in terms of abortion policy, in terms of making it available, it’s function, it is really taking a brother, a sister, a son, a daughter family member you’re killing an innocent human being and not only talking about that innocent human being, the impact that it has on the mother who realizes that was a child, the child had nothing to do with while she’s pregnant, the child is innocent and her child, she was a participant in the death of her own child, whole mother. And you realize the impact that has on any human being without us, a race. You can better understand what’s going on. Then there’s that man you know, it takes a man and a woman to get this pregnancy started. Oh, my goodness, That’s his son. That’s his baby. That was his child. And he has a responsibility and he knows he knows it. And now he has to live with that. Oh, my goodness. There’s an impact. There’s a way that both the men and the women have to carry when it comes to this abortion issue, and it’s a heavyweight, and it has impacted the lives of so many because so many of us have been targeted and so many of us have participated in this abortion debate. It’s just breaking my heart what it’s done to our people.
Jacob Barr :
Thank you for answering that question these are. I know these are hard questions you’re doing. I really appreciate your answers. Some people argue that unequal outcomes prove that a policy slash practice is institutionally racist. In other words, if a policy hurts or helps one race slash ethnicity more than others, then that policy is racist. Along this train of thought is abortion choice policy an example of institutional racism.
Walter Hoye :
You know, I somebody somebody’s thinking it’s ridiculous. I mean, let’s try to get right down to it. Let’s be consistent so that if it’s wrong on the left, it’s wrong on the right. If it’s wrong for the white man, it’s wrong for the black man. If this doesn’t work over here, it doesn’t work over there because it just doesn’t work. And when you start applying logic like that equally across the board, there’s a whole bunch of stuff that can fit within that category that may work over here for this purpose, but you know, not over here. So it becomes very easy to understand that some of these issues are designed to reach and impact a certain area, a certain community, a certain race, Oh, my goodness. And some of the things that impact us don’t impact us for the good. It impacts us for the worst I could spend I have more time talking about this, but Oh my goodness, when I start taking a look at what happened once public assistance became a reality in the early sixties you know, in black America, Oh my goodness, I’m not seeing us going up. I’m not seeing the public assistance really helping anybody. We were better off making sure that the man married with women. We were better off making sure that we worked hard to build a family, to start a job, to get a job, to build a business, to raise our employees. You are much better off. And we were embracing biblical value in the world, embracing values by public assistance.
Jacob Barr :
So some people call abortion in America a black genocide. Is this overstating slash misrepresenting the case?
Walter Hoye :
No, not at all. The numbers really speak for themselves. I mean, we feel like this and maybe most people don’t have any idea about this but when I was doing my research, I came across a government document that they did all the way to the eighteen. Fifties oh my goodness, we’re talking about the, you know, the middle of the eighteen hundreds. And they were looking at the total fertility rate for black Americans. Now they came up with the total fertility that for black Americans it was 7 9. When I first Rep that was 7 9. There’s some about eight kids in the family well, we had much bigger family back then, but I thought eight was kind of low. I mean, I’ve known family that got ten twelve fourteen kids. In it was not it was, not. Unusual so black families to be large families. Oh my goodness. But by the time we get down, Oh my goodness, 100 years later, 1950 it’s down to about what, 3 9? I’m saying, whoa, wait a minute, what’s going on when I get to 1975 since two years after Roe V Wade, we’re down to two 5 or something like that let me say, hey, we’re going the wrong direction and this is important. Let me say this you’ve got to have a replacement level for your toe volatility replacement level is 2 1. In other words, every woman’s got to have at least two kids for your demographic. No matter where you are, no matter who you are, just your demographic, you got to maintain it by at least having 2 1 two kids per family. Oh my goodness. Excuse me for one. Now when you get below 2 1, you’re moving down pretty close to what I call and I report irreversibility. Because if you get down to 1 3-1 point 4, that’s irreversible. You cannot come back from there. There’s no economic model that will allow you to survive back. Oh my goodness and right now like America was looking at a facility, rate was 1 6. We’re not that far from here. Reverse or good?
Jacob Barr :
Wow Was Martin Luther King Junior, pro-life pro-choice or something else?
Walter Hoye :
No. He was pro-life i I’m very, i’m very blessed to be close to family members and family members. And it is clear that if you look at the history, if you look at the history, the records for the 19 City civil rights movement, particularly Martin Luther King Junior, yeah, he was he was polite. I mean, let’s let me say this. I mean, even Jesse Jackson, pro-life I mean, back in the sixties I mean, you can look at Jet magazine articles he’s boldly pro-life And he didn’t change this thing until he got more involved with the Democrat Party while he was running for president, you know, back then. But Oh my goodness, there’s no question that as black Americans we were never for abortion. I mean, I’ve got a report that goes back to I think 1960 or nineteen sixties and it’s talking about the leading N double ACP chapter in America it’s about the Philadelphia N double ACP, Oh my goodness, one of the leading chapter of the N double ACP in the mid sixties now at that time the president see some more. The president he said that this is a quote, this is some black heart. You can read this for yourself. The quote is right there. He says this, that Planned Parenthood’s plan is replete with everything the Negro means to commit race suicide. Even then, in the middle of sixties, you know exactly what Planned Parenthood was all about. So yeah, Oh yeah, it it’s definitely targeting it’s definitely dealing with us in a very negative manner and all my goodness, if we don’t embrace God’s world, God’s biblical model for life and family, we’re down to 1 6 in terms of our total rate. We’re getting more slow in other words, if we don’t stop avoiding like he was right now, whether we’re doing it chemically or whether we’re doing it physically by way or, you know, a physical abortion, the cell we’ve got, maybe we need a linear equation i mean we got down there 2036 the year 2036 before we reach that level and then that other equation we got, you know we got down to 2050 So we’re taking a look in that, moving this to a few years, we may be placing the elimination of black America as a demographic here on some people.
Jacob Barr :
Argue that abortion choice helps reduce in inequalities for underprivileged people. Does abortion reduce poverty? Slash inequality slash injustice.
Walter Hoye :
Has he i mean, let’s take a look at the record, has it you know, I mean, abortion first became leader in 1967 in Colorado and Mississippi and, yeah, California. Yeah, since 1967 Here we are. It’s 2023 Has it helped? How has it helped if it has helped well, if you take a look at what we’re talking about now, hasn’t helped well, hasn’t had any good impact at all, at all. And so, Oh my goodness, how long are we going to keep making the same mistake over and over and over again? This time we’ll stop doing abortion and start moving on to something else because obviously, obviously it’s not help. It’s not improving our standing here of black Americans in the United States of the Moon.
Jacob Barr :
Abortion clinics predominate in black slash minority communities. What does this say about the abortion industry?
Walter Hoye :
The abortion industry has always, from day one, targeted for black America. So the abortion is as racist as the day is long. It’s going to be consistent. If it’s racist over here to say this or racist over there to say or do that, then this is as racist as could possibly be even the black employees in the headquarters for Planned Parenthood in New York City have said on paper it’s publicly available now that Margaret Sanger was in being racist, there is no question about Planned Parenthood or abortion itself being racist. That’s what I mean we’ve got to be honest and we’ve got to be consistent. But that’s racing why do you support them at all? Why do I have anything to do with it at all? And that’s where you know the challenge from them, particularly in the polite movement and that’s one of the reasons that these should belong foundation exist today. We’re trying to change that. Some of the difference in them some.
Jacob Barr :
People claim that the biggest problem black families face is absent fathers. Others say that’s a myth, or that the bigger underlying problem is corruption Slash racism in the justice system. More specifically, the justice system is targeting black men to pull them away from their families and put them in jail, effectively creating the New Jim Crow. Who’s telling the truth here? And how does this impact abortion rates in black homes?
Walter Hoye :
Back to this racism thing. If I was talking to my great grandfather or my grandfather, I’m talking about eighteen, hundreds early nineteen. If I was talking to even my dad. My dad built the color line in the NFL in 1967 They had players back then, but none of us could work. None of us could work in the final since he was the first one that’s what mood was from deployed all the way to California, buddy i went to the New York headquarters and my dad came out here to California san Diego Chargers broke the car. If I were to talk to any of the men of my father, my grandfather, people saw abortion. I mean abortion but they would have thought that racism had almost come to an end. It was nothing that they imagined. Racism that they knew that they were part of was a million times worse than what we see today. Because racism exists yeah. Oh, my goodness. If I was talking to my grandfather, you can start off my goodness, can you get a job as a black man yeah. Can you vote as black man? Yeah can you get paid as a black man? Yeah i mean, my goodness, a black man can even be president of the United States of America. They would be stoned. They could have thought, you know, racism is over. They would have thought we finally come to a point that we can do what God has created us to do what we call racism today. Yeah, it exists yeah, it’s real. But it’s nothing like it was. They were our grandparents because we overcome it. And so now there’s no excuse. And then about parenting. My goodness. If you look at the data in the sixties early sixties i, mean seventy five percent % of us were intact husband and wife families, where the man within the family married to his wife. I might get raised my family. And after that it goes down. It’s like the reverse. It’s almost like maybe seven seventy five percent % are coming from families that aren’t going to attack. And is it better? No. Are we making improvements no are we gaining ground? No. Is it still slow? Oh, my goodness yeah. Is it getting better no. So we really want to get back we’re going to have to be consistent. And I keep mentioning that we’re going to be consistent and breaks the truth. Look at the daily you can see what’s working and you can see what’s not working unless, you know, throw politics out the window. Let’s go with what works and it’s clear. God’s model, husband and wife, family or real life that works. Let’s do that that’s.
Jacob Barr :
Good So Black Lives matter bLM has raised mixed feelings among black people in America. We can all grant that racism still exists and there is plenty of work to still be done to heal racism, racial animosity, to hold authorities accountable such as police, courts, etcetera, and to address other race based problems in America. Nevertheless, BLM has also aligned with certain progressive and left wing political causes, including abortion choice policy and dismantling the western nuclear family. What exactly is BLM and what are your thoughts on BLM in relation to family and abortion policy?
Walter Hoye :
They really ought to call it the George Sorrell, you know, organization in the that’s really where the money’s coming from. I have a friend of mine, very good friend of mine his name is Kevin McGarry and he runs an organization for every Black Lives Matter. E, E, L M oh, my goodness. Kevin it is. Spectacular i mean, he’s all over this. And yeah, you know, the organization, the LM organization, they’ve already been busted some of them have even gone with jail. We’ve seen, you know, what they’ve done with their taxes and their money, where the money’s come from it has absolutely nothing to do with black lives i mean, let’s face it, they were foreign abortion. They were promoted abortion in the black community i mean, really? And you’re supposed to be strengthening and building up black American lives right here in America and Oh my goodness, you’re supporting the children of our children and our womb. It’s that even remotely supported my goodness, and it wasn’t and it isn’t. And we can see the results of it today. So as soon as we get away from BLM and start embracing Kevin McGarry, every Black Lives Matter E B L M seem to get away from BLM, the better it would be.
Jacob Barr :
That’s good. In your opinion, what’s the biggest misconception that minorities tend to believe about abortion?
Walter Hoye :
We it’s not necessarily a misconception we know what it is if you even we we’re honest. We’re just talking among ourselves, not being recorded. Oh, yeah, we know exactly where he is. She, she’s pregnant with child tomorrow, She’s no longer pregnant with child. What happened to the child? Child’s there. If you leave her alone, like a pregnancy alone, they’ll be available. There’s just absolutely no question about that. Let’s be consistent. And if we’re going to be honest, I think we all know exactly what abortion does. It takes the life of an innocent human being. Does a baby mean that you can’t go to school anymore you know, I’m sorry. You know, black people prove that. There have been so many of us that have been a big family, went from big families and gone to school. Some of us have even become Athens. Some of us have become doctors, business owners. I mean, I can’t say that that’s really, you know, enhanced with us. Oh my goodness. And that goes to both the man and the woman. So the impact of devotion, I can’t think of anything positive that it’s come from it. And so when people talk about that, I mean, it’s almost as if they just avoid the truth as much as and all my goodness, that’s where the real problem is. You got to embrace the truth instead of avoiding.
Jacob Barr :
What would you like to say about racism and abortion that you were not asked about yet?
Walter Hoye :
I i’d like, I’d like to say that abortion in black America is the number one issue. You’re talking about continuing to exist of black Americans. And I’m not talking about where you can get a job or not you can get a job. I’m not talking about whether you can go and like you can go. I’m not talking about whether you can go to school. You can go to school. I’m not talking about that now i’m talking about black Americans continuing to exist. And when we realize we’re down to a total fertility rate of 1 6 and we’re looking at irreversible rate of 1 3-1 4, my goodness, this becomes the number one issue in Black America. You’ve got to realize that the eight of us embracing the picture however you want to do it, chemically or physically, is destroying matter fact it’s beyond you. We’re looking at the point of the aluminum Black America.
Jacob Barr :
Thank you so much for answering these questions i want to go back to question number three because there might have been a recording glitch. So question number three was race and racism are politically charged ideas that candidates often use to drum up votes, motivate their base, and demonize political opponents. When race is combined with the topic of abortion, candidates can swing a lot of votes in their favor by saying the right thing about race and abortion. And in your view, how can black voters avoid be being taken for granted and stay principled enough to navigate to the rhetoric and manipulation?
Walter Hoye :
Well, Warren, black voters are not taken for granted. Oh my goodness, the black voters are targeted. Clearly targeted by the Democrat vote. And so yes, they look forward. They work with our pastors, our churches. There’s absolutely no question about what’s going on. The Democrat party wants to lose black America. They talk to the conference of national black churches. They talk to Al Sharpton, CNBC, and Oh my goodness, the CNBC comprises at one point it comprise 9 of the largest black truth denomination in the entire country. Now it comprises sixth of a lot of the black truth denominations. This is going to buy the ministration a loan, millions of dollars of funds to get stuff done in black America. My goodness so there’s no question that the Democrat Party understands, just like Margaret Sandler understood, that if you want to get something done in black America, you got a country to church. And that’s continuing to happen today. So as black Americans, we’ve got to put politics aside. What does the Bible say in terms of right and wrong i mean, through the 10 Commandments to the final thou still got, you know, my goodness, she’ll shoot a man continue to marry a woman. Is lying wrong is stealing wrong is murder on me. We’ve gone down the line. I thought once we embrace biblical value, when we get back to where we used to be and we were boldly talking about what does the Bible say, we’ll be back off at that point if we get back to that point and start embracing everybody politics out the world, let’s embrace political value and our entire demographic will be restored. Unless wow.
Jacob Barr :
Thank you so much, Walter i appreciate you taking the time to answer these questions and just helping us. Yeah to hear your voice and we’re trying. My goal is to try and find several pro-life leaders who are well who have a strong voice on racism and abortion. And also i’m actually having trouble finding pro-choice leaders to answer these same questions. But I’m looking for those as well. But I want to ask them the same questions and I think the truth will prevail when it comes to what is right and what is wrong and letting letting people speak answers to these questions and we’ll be compiling them next to each other for this museum exhibit to show people. Yeah the real, you know, essentially exposing the authentic, the authentic history tied to racism and abortion. And so thank you so much for being a part of this.
Walter Hoye :
Lord, God bless you, lovely work that you do, and we’ll be praying for you and all of yours.
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